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They seem to me like an interim solution until we all can afford to go solar. PG\u0026amp;E is working hard to ensure that doesn't happen.\u003c/p\u003e\n","parentHex":"root","score":0,"creationDate":"2023-05-11T17:24:29.241Z","direction":0,"deleted":false},{"commentHex":"ea3249537b0f04f6dc3ced565ecae748ce37131c7d22f8bf47a23f3b50745fa1","commenterHex":"8da31f69cac5170e7ca3dcd2967af6602d1cda5686b9035d46ce85f27bb610a5","markdown":"","html":"\u003cblockquote\u003e\n\u003cp\u003eI’ve told commissioners, you can’t rate-design your way out of high costs.\u003c/p\u003e\n\u003c/blockquote\u003e\n\u003cp\u003eThat is exactly my problem with this proposal.  The goal should be to leverage DER and reduce transmission, distribution and fixed costs and this approach is counterproductive to that goal.\u003c/p\u003e\n","parentHex":"root","score":0,"creationDate":"2023-05-11T19:04:31.668092Z","direction":0,"deleted":false},{"commentHex":"90aba2388778a7c97d7ad7f1e71e83379547aae95d7e0d4a4eaef36326597095","commenterHex":"8da31f69cac5170e7ca3dcd2967af6602d1cda5686b9035d46ce85f27bb610a5","markdown":"","html":"\u003cp\u003eThe page to submit comments to the CPUC is \u003ca href=\"https://apps.cpuc.ca.gov/apex/f?p=401:56::::RP,57,RIR:P5_PROCEEDING_SELECT:R2207005\"\u003ehttps://apps.cpuc.ca.gov/apex/f?p=401:56::::RP,57,RIR:P5_PROCEEDING_SELECT:R2207005\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e\n","parentHex":"root","score":1,"creationDate":"2023-05-16T11:52:35.78697Z","direction":0,"deleted":false},{"commentHex":"592d3e7d2f275a01ff1f68199181a1559e50105bdedc40713a0d97015d960a53","commenterHex":"56434974424d488ada036170cb722dd7e84ae8f6049767bfa2a1318c3a517504","markdown":"","html":"\u003cp\u003eExcept, possibly, a reduction for the poorest of our citizens, electricity should cost the customer what it costs to produce it and deliver it to the customer but here is the rub.  As usual we are having out attention focused on the right hand while the left had does the trick.  With the greater and greater proportion of our electricity being produced by wind and solar, which we are told again and again is cheaper than producing it with fossil fuels and with the grid becoming less and less centralized as renewable energy generating  equipment springs up all over the place (roof top solar for instance) our electricity prices should be coming down.  All over the world, the price of electricity is going up.  Perhaps the threat of nationalization would get the attention of the executives at the head of these price gouging businesses.\u003c/p\u003e\n","parentHex":"root","score":0,"creationDate":"2023-05-09T19:38:07.079066Z","direction":0,"deleted":false},{"commentHex":"dc0c7142e71367871fd7e734982db88986ea07bfa42196cb6de7384982136736","commenterHex":"f02c0186b43455ee1568e5744451fdcb9c0869178336e0231dd488d29e9162be","markdown":"","html":"\u003cp\u003eI've given this matter some thought.  Putting responsibility on the electric utilities to make a progressive system that supports low income families is wrongheaded.  It's not the mandate of utilities to support progressive policies, particularly since they don't have access to household incomes.  Should we ask oil companies to tier their price of gasoline to depend on household income when a car pulls up to a gas station?  Ultimately if politicians want to support low income households, such should be done at the taxation level.  The simplest and easiest way to do so is the state government to send money directly to, for example, the lowest 20% income households in the state on a quarterly or monthly basis.  Such money would be used to offset electricity cost, or rent, or food, or fuel for cars or other transportation costs.   From an economic perspective, directly supporting low income households with cash is the simplest and most direct way to do so.  Then let those households decide how to manage their funds.\u003c/p\u003e\n","parentHex":"root","score":1,"creationDate":"2023-05-11T18:02:32.786827Z","direction":0,"deleted":false}],"configuredOauths":{"commento":true,"github":true,"gitlab":true,"google":true,"sso":false,"twitter":true},"defaultSortPolicy":"score-desc","domain":"www.canarymedia.com","isFrozen":false,"isModerator":false,"requireIdentification":true,"requireModeration":true,"success":true}